The Origin of the Regimental Insignia
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As far as the design is concerned - a little history! I was a native born'Scot' from
Aberdeen. When I served in the Corps, I was not a U.S. Citizenat the time, and in fact, to
my knowledge was the only Marine in the Corpswho had a top secret clearance working
in my section. Once, in late 66 (Ithink), Major Fullum (S-3) had a visit from some rear flunky
out of Da-Nang; who brought to his attention that I was an 'alien' handing all the secret
stuff. They figured at the time it was better to keep me in Opn's, than re-assign me back to
Anyway, when I was asked to design the Insignia, I remembered the colors of the 'bonnie
blue flag' of Scotland, using the deep blue, and the white diagonal lines across the field
of blue. Instead of using the lines, I took the NCO sword, and the Officer's sword, and
used them across the background of blue. I then placed an eagle with outstretched
wings across the top. The bottom scroll had the words ' Fourth Marine Regiment' on it.
That is what my initial design was ( which I still have). When the design was submitted by
Major Fullum to Colonel Thompson (Reg't Commander); he suggested some minor
changes to the eagle and scroll work. That was given to one of the guy's who took it to
Thailand while on R&R. He was the one who brought back the lighters, with the logo on
it. Alas, I lost mine as I mentioned before.
Graeme Webster
Aberdeen. When I served in the Corps, I was not a U.S. Citizenat the time, and in fact, to
my knowledge was the only Marine in the Corpswho had a top secret clearance working
in my section. Once, in late 66 (Ithink), Major Fullum (S-3) had a visit from some rear flunky
out of Da-Nang; who brought to his attention that I was an 'alien' handing all the secret
stuff. They figured at the time it was better to keep me in Opn's, than re-assign me back to
Anyway, when I was asked to design the Insignia, I remembered the colors of the 'bonnie
blue flag' of Scotland, using the deep blue, and the white diagonal lines across the field
of blue. Instead of using the lines, I took the NCO sword, and the Officer's sword, and
used them across the background of blue. I then placed an eagle with outstretched
wings across the top. The bottom scroll had the words ' Fourth Marine Regiment' on it.
That is what my initial design was ( which I still have). When the design was submitted by
Major Fullum to Colonel Thompson (Reg't Commander); he suggested some minor
changes to the eagle and scroll work. That was given to one of the guy's who took it to
Thailand while on R&R. He was the one who brought back the lighters, with the logo on
it. Alas, I lost mine as I mentioned before.
Graeme Webster
Graeme Webster
SFC, U.S. Army (RET)
Formerly. SGT Webster
HHC,S-3, 4th Marine Regiment
SFC, U.S. Army (RET)
Formerly. SGT Webster
HHC,S-3, 4th Marine Regiment
I served in HHC, from March of 66 to Dec 67 in S-3,under Major Fullum, S-3
Operations Officer.I was the one who did all the operations maps and overlays for
daily battalion briefings and sitreps. In 66, I was asked to design a Regimental
insignia for the unit. I still have the original sketch I did today. If anyone remembers,
the design was sent to Thailand, to be made into pins. These were then attached to
Zippo lighters, and given out to members of HHC. I lost mine somewhere between
Camp Carroll and Camp Evans. But, I see that the design is the same as the
Regimental crest shown at the top of the web site. I haven't seen that in over 40 years.
On this past Veterans Day, I was at Fairchild AFB,Washington, and visited a display
of all kinds of Vietnam era patches, flags, pins and what ever. Lo and behold, I saw
the pin of the Regiment - the same one I had designed for Major Fullum - back in 1966.
Talk about flashbacks!
My son in law discovered this website, and many of the pictures taken in various
locations, are the same scenes that I took pictures of myself. I had those converted
into slides many years ago, and still have them.
I would be interested in finding out if the Regimental insignia, which I designed, is in
the new Marine Corps museum at Quantico.
Operations Officer.I was the one who did all the operations maps and overlays for
daily battalion briefings and sitreps. In 66, I was asked to design a Regimental
insignia for the unit. I still have the original sketch I did today. If anyone remembers,
the design was sent to Thailand, to be made into pins. These were then attached to
Zippo lighters, and given out to members of HHC. I lost mine somewhere between
Camp Carroll and Camp Evans. But, I see that the design is the same as the
Regimental crest shown at the top of the web site. I haven't seen that in over 40 years.
On this past Veterans Day, I was at Fairchild AFB,Washington, and visited a display
of all kinds of Vietnam era patches, flags, pins and what ever. Lo and behold, I saw
the pin of the Regiment - the same one I had designed for Major Fullum - back in 1966.
Talk about flashbacks!
My son in law discovered this website, and many of the pictures taken in various
locations, are the same scenes that I took pictures of myself. I had those converted
into slides many years ago, and still have them.
I would be interested in finding out if the Regimental insignia, which I designed, is in
the new Marine Corps museum at Quantico.
Copy of my original sketch
of the Insignia for the (On
the Left)
of the Insignia for the (On
the Left)
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